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Reader Request: My Take on the Ukraine “Crisis”

From George:

“Futurodellanazione;

“I for one, and I am certain that others too, would be interested in your take on the ongoing Ukraine rebellion/fiasco which it would appear, the US government has been involved in by way of the usual efforts at “regime change”. I am searching around the net for info on this and getting the opinions of people who seem informed. You are among those.”

I’ve been watching the Ukrainian crisis evolve and I’ve been trying to wait until I was able to find out more about the leadership of the Ukrainian “protesters” before writing much. How Jewish are they? I don’t know yet. Pretty Jewish, I’m betting. But here’s what I see in a nutshell at this point:

The leadership of the Ukrainian “uprising” wants to see Ukraine economically aligned with the EU because that organization with its infrastructure and relatively healthy central bank will make moving money in and out of that part of Eastern Europe much easier and because it will undermine Putin, who simply pisses western Jewqueerislamdiversity liberals off to no end. And when it comes to the kinds of shenanigans Jews are good at pulling in developed economies, they need size and growth and traffic to hide what they are up to. The Russian economy, though intimidating, is very typically Russian in that it is of crude “engineering” and lacks transparency. It is full of bureaucracy and red tape and ridiculous amounts of graft. That’s why it’s so corrupt and why its currency stays where it does. So though the Russian economy seems like it would be haven for Zio-economics (and it is on a very limited scale), it doesn’t have the overall scale or growth of the EU. And the EU has at least the appearance of being on the “up and up.”

One thing the EU doesn’t have much of, however, is OIL, and Russia does. The impasse between Russia and the EU is at least partially traceable to the difficulties the price of petroleum products presents for Europe’s supranational economy and Russia’s unwillingness to be their Saudi Arabia. By the way, the Ukraine has oil and the infrastructure to get it out of the ground. That’s why Hitler wanted it. But huge natural gas deposits were found in the last couple of years that are as yet untapped.

So in its energy-starved rage, the EU has a bit of a history of trying to isolate anti-EU Russia and stir anti-Russian shit in Eastern Europe,  and has by now probably worn out Putin’s patience.

However, even with the oil, welcoming the Ukraine into the EU could mean Europe footing the bill for a bailout of the Ukrainian economy (typically weak as most post-Soviet economies are) to the tune of $40B in the short run, which is why the already-Greece-fatigued EU pays lip service to supporting a “New Ukraine,” but balks at calling for regime change or just flinging wide the doors to EU membership. And the EU bears a good deal of responsibility for driving the Ukraine’s ordinatio non grata towards Russia in the first place.

From the New York Times:

“The European Union is considered to have driven too hard a bargain with Ukraine, with little obvious payoff, late last year, when Viktor F. Yanukovych, then president and now the subject of a nationwide manhunt, chose to reject a customs union and association agreement with Brussels and turn to Moscow instead for a big loan. His choice created a popular, pro-European reaction that led to his downfall, but it has not made choices any easier for Europe or for Ukraine.”

The President of the Ukraine had gone on the record and said he would sign the agreements needed to get the Ukraine into the EU…the EU (and the bankers that run it) used that political pressure to make some pretty difficult demands on the front end. They did this knowing that the President would be in a no-win situation: if Yanukovych took the deal, then Ukraine would bleed money into the European Central Bank, and if he didn’t follow through…he’d get what he has on his hands now. So Yanukovych backed out (bravely, in my opinion) and went to Russia for economic help. The Western press has run with this as Yanukovych “bending to Putin’s will” instead of “running away from the EU’s destabilizing demands.”

By the way, the uprising is NOT totally organic. The movement is at least partially AstroTurf planted there by anti-Putin European (and American) forces to wrench The Ukraine out of Russia’s control and into the European economic machine.

American Diplomat Discussing Ukraine and the EU

But the thing is rapidly getting out of hand and it objectively threatens spilling over into Russia, giving Putin the exact kind of excuse he could use diplomatically to wield a military club on a limited basis.

Putin, being predictably unpredictable and a bit of a Crazy Ivan, is planning, I would bet, to look for a good opening to simply roll into the Ukraine and establish a “peacekeeping” mission and perhaps negotiate a post-Tito-Yugoslavia style (but peaceable) splitting of the country. The lines are pretty clear for that. The US and the rest of NATO will clutch their pearls and swoon but will, ultimately, do nothing about it and Putin will look, again, like a rampaging, bluff-calling badass.

We’ll see.

TL;DR: The uprising is mostly orchestrated by anti-Putin Western forces and the EU flexing its muscles. Energy needs are in the mix. Putin will probably put his foot down at some point, possibly in Ukraine. Pussified West will not fight a war against a real enemy who has nukes.


7 Comments

  1. Cj aka Elderofzyklons Blog says:

    Reblogged this on ElderofZyklon's Blog!.

  2. George says:

    Futurodellanazione:

    Thank you so much for your in-depth response/analysis- it is more than I hoped for. I had been following Dr. Paul Craig Roberts posts on this issue and while his analysis of this situation does shine a light on cultural aspects that I had not taken into account (such as the traditional eastern Ukrainian anti-Russo sentiment and simultaneous western Ukrainian Russian loyalist counterpart) his take on the blossoming mess in Ukraine seems too one dimensional, focusing almost solely on historic and cultural aspects of the conflict in the Ukraine and almost no mention of the economic forces driving the scenario, which is odd indeed for an economist.
    Still, Dr. Roberts seems to have been the first one to point out (on the net, at least) that there was an attempt by US and EU agents to foment civil unrest in the Ukraine to bring it into the EU. I quote from one of his essays here:

    “Ukraine is out of control. This is what happens when an arrogant, but stupid, Assistant Secretary of State (Victoria Nuland) plots with an equally arrogant and stupid US ambassador (Pyatt) to put their candidates in power once their coup against the elected president succeeds. The ignorant and deluded who deny any such plotting occurred can listen to the conversation between Nuland and Pyatt here:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSxaa-67yGM&feature=player_embedded

    Roberts of course, feels that the situation will lead to war. I agree with your viewpoint that it will not since the US is far too overextended in its various policing actions and wars throughout the Middle East. It is one thing to bully Iraq and another altogether to face down the Russian Federation. Roberts also predictably (if understandably) ignores the subject of Jewish interests in acquiring Ukraine. Any attempt to broach the topic of Jewish influence is a third rail with regard to career interests (or maintaining a government pension in his case).

  3. Watching “Meet the Press.” So far, my predictions are looking good.

  4. George says:

    Thanks for the link. I am reading it now. Seems as though Putin is not backing down.

  5. George says:

    Futurodellananazione;

    Did you see this? Apparently Putin has gone beyond “not backing down” and has issued an ultimatum, here;

    http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/03/03/uk-ukraine-crisis-ultimatum-idUKBREA221AI20140303

    It’s a “line in the sand”

  6. George says:

    Futurodellananazione:

    Don’t know if you are still following this event, but there is a very interesting article on how the putsch in Ukraine was engineered while Putin was preoccupied with the games in Sochi, here:

    http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2014/03/12/the-ukrainian-pendulum/

    It seems the usual suspects are to blame, but the alliances involved in the overthrow of the Ukraine gov’t are odd to say the least. I am interested in your input, if you have the time.

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